4-2-12 The Quran Code
Moslem Final statement
Miracles are blessings from God to those who believe and
seek the truth, not to arrogant human beings that decided not to
accept God’s message to them. Miracles by themselves do not
convey a message, but proves the authenticity of the message delivered
through God’s messengers.
When Jesus walked the earth he was supported by powerful miracles from
God that the people may know that he spoke the truth. By presenting
proof for the Gospel he preached he also confirmed the previous
revelations in the Old Testament. The mathematical miracle of the
Qur’an fills exactly the same function, and confirms previous
We humans have been given the gift of free will by God, which allows
the doubters to question and reject God’s miracles, and the
sincere to reap the benefits for accepting them.
Although Jesus showed great miracles, most people did not believe him
and even pursued to ridicule, persecute, and eventually crucify
him. Similar things happened to Moses and all the other prophets.
It should not surprise us to see history repeats itself when it
comes to God’s miracle in the Qur’an.
Mr. Heaster wrote: “where is the concrete evidence that the text
of the Bible has been altered? For this debate requires such concrete
In my opening statement I provided several links to information about
this. In my second article, I provided evidence from the Bible of
the fact that there were disputes between the original disciples
of Jesus and Paul, whose version is the one most prevalent today.
The Quran Code: The Proof
There is no other scripture or piece of literature displaying the same
deliberate and overwhelming structure as the Qur’an, which
is far beyond human capability yet easy to understand. The studies
based on number 7 and 11 in the Bible are nowhere near the complexity
and clarity of the code of the Qur’an.
The Quranic code leaves no stone unturned. It covers every single letter,
every single word, every single verse and every single chapter of
the whole Qur’an. There is no change of method in how to count
or what to include, as is the case with all other attempts to imitate
the code of the Qur’an. It is ignorance of the complexity
and overwhelming clarity of the miracle of the Qur’an which
makes people compare it with other reported simple patterns seen
in the Ancient literature or scriptures.
Just as in the days of Moses, when the magicians threw their sticks and
they appeared as serpents to the people through their magic, there
will always be poor imitators of God’s awesome signs and structures
to us. This fact serves the important function to expose those who
seek excuses to disregard God’s signs to hold on to their
old beliefs and ways. The old beliefs being protected always involves
a message suggesting that something or someone else beside God have
or should have some power.
Do Numbers Change Lives?
You asked, “How does a pattern of the number 19 (or any number
in fact!) really transform lives, today?“
How does anything divine transform our lives? When studying how the previous
messengers and prophets were received we see that God’s signs
have always had various effects on different people. The effect
number 19 will have is clearly spelled out in the Qur’an.
[74:30] Over it is nineteen.
[74:31] We appointed angels to be guardians of Hell, and we assigned
their number (19) (1) to disturb the disbelievers, (2) to convince
the Christians and Jews (that this is a divine scripture), (3) to
strengthen the faith of the faithful, (4) to remove all traces of
doubt from the hearts of Christians, Jews, as well as the believers,
and (5) to expose those who harbour doubt in their hearts, and the
disbelievers; they will say, " What did GOD mean by this allegory?"
GOD thus sends astray whomever He wills, and guides whomever He
None knows the soldiers of your Lord except He. This is a reminder for
I guess you have to ask what the numerical observations in the Bible
are designed to achieve for the people studying them. Certainly,
you must believe that their existence have some meaning and deserves
attention, since it was designed by God and discovered by His will?
Although you credit some of these observations as being “amazing”
and “startling”, you do not accept them as being significant
since you say, “Although some claim to ‘prove’
the Bible through its features relating to the number 7, I don’t
think the Bible needs this crutch to support it. God’s word
doesn’t need such appeals to validate it. Many documents have
features of 7 if one looks close enough. “ I guess we both
agree then that “amazing” and “startling”
is one thing, and “miraculous another.
About mathematical coding in general you continue, “It doesn’t
need computer techniques and clever counting to prove whether or
not a document is from God.“
What it needs or not, or what we need or not, is not for us to decide.
You may not realize it, but what you are in fact saying is that
it would be wrong of God to reveal a sign using the computer, based
on a deliberate mathematical pattern?
God is in no need, period. We are the ones that need Him. God doesn’t
need to reveal a scripture or to send messengers and prophets supported
by powerful signs and miracles to guide us. But God chose to set
up this system for our benefit. He also chose to grant us the freedom
to question any aspect of this system until the Day of Judgement.
Looking back at the signs God revealed to our ancestors, we see that
He always revealed signs that suited each generation and time. At
the time of Moses magic was a big thing. At the time of Jesus healing
the sick was considered a big deal. Today we live in the computer
era, in which almost everything is controlled or influenced by numbers.
The Quran Code: Gematria
You say, “Gematria Doesn’t Prove Inspiration.”
I completely agree that gematria itself does not prove inspiration
or revelation any more than numbers or words in general. It is when
those numbers, words and gematrical value of the same are woven
into a perfect pattern beyond human knowledge and capacity that
Gematria is by no means the basis for the miracle of the
Qur’an. Most aspects of the code have in fact nothing to do
with the gematrical values of the letters.
You also say “If other books can be shown to have the same features,
then they too are truth. “ If doesn’t quite
cut it when making the most important decision of our lives. It
is enough of a struggle to deal with what is.
“A message claiming to be divine and apparently proved to be so because
it contains a startling combination of numbers should still not
be accepted if the historical and moral content of such a message
or book fails to confirm its divine origin.”
Again you use the word “if”. We either accept something as
being of divine origin or not. When we accept something as divine
nothing in this world should abrogate our respect and complete obedience
of such a message. There is no such thing as ‘I accept this
as divine if it coincides with my previous view of the world.’
We came to this world because our opinions are twisted. Our way of looking
at things is incorrect. This is why we need guidance from God. What
arrogance would make us believe that we are entitled to reject something
clearly divine because it does not coincide with our personal sense
A message that is not divine will never be proven to be divine. No one
can fool God or produce a miracle without His authorization. For
the record, the moral contents, laws and facts in the Qur’an
have testified to its divine origin long before it was confirmed
by the revelation of the mathematical miracle.
“if the sources of the information in the Qur’an are found to have been
in existence before the time of Mohammed, as indeed they were; and
if its historical information is faulty; then the Qur’an cannot
be accepted as divine. We thus find the " proof" offered
by this type of numeric to be simply irrelevant.”
“If” again…. I’m assuming that you are referring to information known
to previous generations repeated in the Qur’an. Information being
repeated in later scriptures is nothing new, as we clearly see in
the New Testament as well. Jesus clearly said “I have not come to
destroy the law, but to fulfil it.” The Qur’an confirms many of
the previous events and miracles, and provides more details about
History is often the version of powerful persuading the world of their
God, the Most Merciful, does not however leave our destiny to depend
on accounts of strangers that lived thousands of years before us.
When such accounts are of any value to our salvation, God reproduces
whatever is relevant of them in His revelations to us. Thus historical
information can be a useful and valid source, but must be measured
against God’s scripture, not the other way around.
It would be interesting to know if you can think of even one independent
historical piece of information which goes against the Quranic accounts,
that is found in the Bible, which has any relevance at all to the
way you practice your religion?
The Quran Code: Coincidences
You say, “Anyone with a background in statistics can tell you that
there is such a thing as pure co-incidence. “
Anyone who is either ignorant of who God is, or too arrogant to accept who
God is, would agree with you. To explain any invent by co-incidence
does not exist in the heart of a person who believes in the attributes
with which God presents Himself to us: Almighty, Omniscient, Omnipresent,
Alpha and Omega, Innermost and Outermost.
In fact, the major difference between a person who believes in
God with all His attributes compared to one that do not, is the
quality of understanding that God is running absolutely everything.
Thus, there is no such thing as a co-incidence.
[10:61] …Not even an atom's weight is out of your Lord's control,
be it in the heavens or the earth. Nor is there anything smaller
than an atom, or larger, that is not recorded in a profound record.
[6:59] ….Not a leaf falls without His knowledge. Nor is there a
grain in the depths of the soil. Nor is there anything wet or dry,
that is not recorded in a profound record.
God’s laws are absolute. There are no single exceptions to
His laws. This can only be achieved by absolute control of all things.
Thus, there are no coincidences. The concept of “coincidences”
is invented by those who seek
to put limits on God to allow the introduction of the need of other elements.
“A photograph was once published in a British newspaper of three cars
whose registration plates varied only by one letter each, were parked
in the same direction, on the same street, of the same colour and
year. And yet they were owned by people in totally different parts
of the country.”
This is a perfect example of how something out of the ordinary caught
your attention, and enough attention of others to make it into the
papers. Yet, the pattern in this event is very insignificant compared
to the overwhelming, powerful and completely solid and consistent
pattern of divisibility of 19 in the Qur’an.
This event proves that God placed in us the instinct to react to patterns
beyond the norm. This also proves that even for those that do believe
that there is such a thing as a co-incidence, at some point they
will be convinced that there is something extraordinary about a
situation. Thus, events can only be explained away to a certain
point. The point God takes us to when He reveals His miracles, is
the point where there are no excuses to be made. Believe that.
What is perceived as divine or not differs from person to person. We
are all responsible as individual to investigate what comes our
way and make our choice. Whether we verified or researched enough
before making that most crucial decision, we are still responsible
Alleged Problems with the Quranic Miracle / The Quran Code
· The opening statement of most of the Quranic chapters (In the name
of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful) has never ever been numbered.
Thus, it would have been more logical to complain if they were counted,
and if the miracle depended on numbering what was not numbered before
the revelation of the miracle.
· Raising the issue of the different presentations of the Quranic verses
as an argument against the Quranic code is kind of strange, as the
existence of these different presentations actually confirm that
there is one original text from which the others are derived. Would
it be logical to consider the existence of all the different and
adjusted presentations of the Biblical text as an argument against
the Bible as most of the world knows it?
The oldest known copies of the Qur’an clearly shows the division
of the verses as the majority of Muslims and the world knows them,
and as proven by the Quranic code.
· Variant readings of the Qur’an? The only “variant” reading ever related
to the Qur’an, is the one with two extra verses at the end of Sura
9, added to honor the prophet. As it turns out, these verses served
a very important function in proving how well the Quranic pattern
protects it from ANY alteration. It confirms that all the original
6346 verses has been perfectly preserved. To read more about this,
· About the Quranic Initials you wrote: “These are the initials of the
scribes who copied them. A.L.M., for example, stands for Amar Li
These Initials has been known as “the mysterious Quranic Initials.”
No explanation of these Initials made sense until the revelation
of the miracle. The theory you raise here is not based on any evidence.
Nor is it logical or in consistency with the explanation of these
letters in the Quranic text.
[10:1] A.L.R. These (letters) are the proofs of this book of wisdom.
[13:1] A. L. M. R. These (letters) are proofs of this scripture.
[15:1] A.L.R. These (letters) are proofs of this scripture; a profound
[26:1-2] T. S. M. These (letters) constitute proofs of this clarifying
[27:1] T. S. These (letters) constitute proofs of the Qur’an; a
[31:1-2] A. L. M. These (letters) constitute proofs of this book of wisdom.
As I said in the beginning of this article there are no shortcuts regarding
this issue. This information will only be of value to you if you
take the time to take it through the final most crucial step, the
step of verification. If you wish to study the pattern for yourself
your are welcome to visit the following page.
To confuse the reader about the integrity of the overwhelming miracle
of the Qur’an, Mr. Heaster mentioned some complicated numbers
without clarification and included a table with wrong information.
For your benefit we are therefore reproducing the same table as
in Mr. Heaster’s article, but with the correct information,
and with some assistance to help you see the pattern. To read more
about it, please visit http://www.submission.org/math-ap1.html.
To verify the count, visit http://www.submission.org/miracle/visual.html
To you, the reader of this debate, I would like to say that all this
information should be worth nothing to you until you take it through
the last most important step, the step of verification. God gave
you your hearing, your eyesight and your brains, and you are responsible
for using them. You are responsible for what you attribute to God.
[Qur’an 17:36] You shall not accept any information, unless you
verify it for yourself. I have given you the hearing, the eyesight,
and the brain, and you are responsible for using them.
Prominent and charismatic leaders or presenters in the form or priests,
imams, or powerful family members, constitute for many the sources
from which they derive their religious information and conclusions.
This is nothing short of a disaster for the soul of any human being.
To love God with all our heart and all our soul it has to be real,
it has to be ours. There are no short cuts here.
[Qur’an 6:94] " You have come back to us as individuals, just
as we created you the first time, and you have left behind what
we provided for you. We do not see with you the intercessors that
you idolized and claimed that they will help you. All ties among
you have been severed; the idols you set up have abandoned you."